I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I AM ON FOUR MINUTES. I FEEL LIKE -- I ALSO HAD MY STAFF PROVIDE ME THIS MORNING IN VERY SMALL TYPE RECIDIVISM AND FEDERAL SENTENCING OUTCOMES. I HAVE SAID, I AM ON RECORD AS SAYING I WANT PEOPLE OUT, I WANT THEM TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REENTER SOCIETY AND BECOME PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS. I HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF RATIFYING BILLS TO THAT EFFECT SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE IN THE SENATE. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. TELL ME WHY THE NUMBERS I'M LOOKING AT HERE -- WE HAVE RECIDIVISM RATE, THE MOST RECENT ONE I HAVE BEFORE ME, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT, TO HAVE THIS SUBMITTED TO THE RECORD, THAT I THINK AN EIGHT YEAR LOOK BACK SAYS THAT 49% OF THE PEOPLE INCARCERATED ARE REARRESTED WITHIN EIGHT YEARS. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE TYPES THAT ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE REOFFENDING, IT IS FIREARMS OFFENDERS, ROBBERY OFFENDERS, VIOLENT OFFENDERS RE-OFFENDED AT A HIGHER RATE THAN NONVIOLENT OFFENDERS. IF I LOOK AT THIS AND I LOOK AT YOUR PHILOSOPHY WITH RESPECT -- AND IT IS ADMIRABLE. I SAID THAT THE CONTENT OF YOUR CHARACTER WOULD BE DEMONSTRATED THIS WEEK AND IT HAS BEEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE FIRST AMONG THEM ARE YOUR COMPASSION AND YOUR BELIEF THAT PEOPLE CAN REDEEM THEMSELVES. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE CASES THAT OUR, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT UP, AND IF YOU LOOK AT EVEN WITH THE CONTEXT YOU PROVIDED ON THE LAST STATEMENT ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS STATEMENT AND WIGGINS, CAN YOU UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF US MAY THINK THAT YOUR COMPASSION COULD LEAD TO BAD RESULTS RAISED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH RECIDIVISM? THAT CONGRESS MAY NEED TO WORK MORE ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT? CAN YOU UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEBODY WHO FROM OUR SIDE OF THE AISLE COULD SEE THAT MAYBE THERE IS SOME PATTERN TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN INCARCERATED IN SOME CASES VERY SERIOUS CRIMES? JUDGE JACKSON: THANK YOU, SENATOR. I DON'T RECALL SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT COMPASSION IN THE WAY THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING. ...