LET ME ASK ABOUT YOUR POLICY OF NOT GIVING ENHANCEMENTS WHEN THEIR PREPUBESCENT CHILDREN LIKE IN THE HAWKINS CASE WHO WERE EIGHT, 9, 10 YEARS OLD. I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THIS. YOU SAID IT IN HAWKINS, THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GIVE HIM AN ENHANCEMENT. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE A SENTENCE ANY TOUGHER DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAD ALL OF THESE TERRIBLE VIDEOS THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH YESTERDAY. THIS IS PAGE 38 OF THE TRANSCRIPT. YOU SAID IN YOUR CASE, I DON'T FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE NECESSARILY TO INCREASE THE PENALTY ON THE BASIS OF YOUR USE OF A COMPUTER OR THE NUMBER OF IMAGES OR PREPUBESCENT VICTIMS AS THE GUIDELINES REQUIRE BECAUSE THE CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST IN MANY CASES IF NOT MOST AND THEY DON'T SIGNAL AN ESPECIALLY HEINOUS OR EGREGIOUS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY OFFENSE. YOU SAID THE SAME THING IN THE COOPER CASE LAST YEAR. THIS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL 30 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME OF HIS SENTENCING HE PLEADED GUILTY TO DISTRIBUTING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. HE POSTED THREE DOZEN TO FOUR DOZEN IMAGES OF CHILD EXPLOITATION TO TUMBLER WHERE IT COULD BE ACCESSED PUBLICLY. THE GOVERNMENT SAID ON PAGE 37, WHEN HIS DEVICES WERE FOUND INCLUDING THE COMPUTER AND IN AN UNTITLED FOLDER OR MANY MANY MANY VIDEOS. THE NATURE OF THESE VIDEOS WENT WELL BEYOND MERE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. THE GOVERNMENT SAID I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE LIGHT OF THE CONTENT OF ANY CHILD PORNOGRAPHY BUT TO SAY THE CONTENT OF THOSE VIDEOS IS ON THE MORE EGREGIOUS OR EXTREME SPECTRUM OF THE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY VIDEOS THAT ARE ENCOUNTERED IN THESE CASES. YET WHEN YOU SENTENCED HIM, YOU SAID I AM QUOTING FROM THE TRANSCRIPT IN COOPER, I AM RELUCTANT TO GET INTO THE NATURE OF THE BORN. THEN IT IS DIFFICULT TO ASSESS HOW DIFFERENT MR. COOPER'S IMAGES ARE THEN THOSE OF SIMILARLY SITUATED CHILD PORNOGRAPHY DEFENDANTS SUCH THAT NIGHT WITHOUT GOING INTO LOOKING AT THEM AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNMENT'S ARGUMENTS ARGUMENTS IN THAT REGARD, I DON'T FIND THEM PERSUASIVE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CHARACTERIZING THIS AS AN ESPECIALLY EGREGIOUS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY OFFENSE. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS, WHAT IS YOUR POLICY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE GUIDELINES TREATING IMAGES, VIDEOS, PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES THAT HAVE SMALL CHILDREN INFANTS SEVEN, 8, 9 YEARS OLD, WHY WOULDN'T YOU GIVE AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THOSE? JUDGE JACKSON: THANK YOU, SENATOR. I HAVE TWO RESPONSES. FIRST, THAT IS NOT MY POLICY DISAGREEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU HAVE CHARACTERIZED THAT IN THAT WAY. ...